At 11:42 AM 9/17/2005 +0300, you wrote: >There were articles going around (CNN, Yahoo, etc) about a German making >fuel from dead cats. Later he denied it, though. >http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/ > >I'll refrain from any comments, but I'm sure Roland knows what I'm thinking. Put a tiger in your tank? It seems to me that plants have essentially "poisoned" the atmosphere over the eons (originally it reducing, not oxidizing) from their perspective by emitting oxygen (when light is present) and consuming CO2, to the point where there is almost no free CO2 left. They have evolved to adapt to the harsh conditions, and other organisms like us have sprung up to take advantage of the free oxygen, but we can't tolerate very much CO2-- more than about 1000ppm and we start experiencing problems. Modern plants are probably happy with lots of CO2 or just a whisper. Calculations on biomass energy and solar must be very complex, depending on the aim of the research. For example, fertilizer requires a fair bit of natural gas to make, and oil products are used in mechanized harvesting and planting operations. Similarly, the energy used to manufacture PV cells is reportedly significant compared to the lifetime output of the cells. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com ->> Inexpensive test equipment & parts http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspeff -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist