Thanks Madhu. The height (3.9mm) and size are passable, but the plugs are very bulky -- somewhat overwhelming for a very small pcb (roughly 3/8" x 5/8" so far). JST has a nice small SHL-series right-angle connector (http://www.jst.com/cs/cs2a-3a-1.html), but it only comes in 14-circuits and up. Also not sure how I'll hand-crimp 1.0mm pitch pins =8-O Cheers, -Neil. These are a On Friday 16 September 2005 09:22 am, Madhu Annapragada scribbled: > Are the MQ172 series from Hirose too big? MQ172X-4PA (Digikey # H2794-ND) > mating with a solder type shielded connector. Looks like a mini firewire > connector. > > Regards > Madhu Annapragada -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist