On September 16, 2005 09:48 am, John Ferrell wrote: > I have successfully loaded Knoppix 3.7 on the Celeron 700 mhz > machine. It has a slow CD rom so things are a bit tedious but I will > soon put in on the HD and continue. > > I would like to do the dual boot thing but I have yet to puzzle it > out. John Ferrell > http://DixieNC.US If you successfully ran Knoppix, then best to install it. Mandrake linux has a graphical install, if you were to dual boot windows and Mandrake, I would put windows towards the front of the harddrive because that is where windows products "expect" to be located. Then put linux towards the back (assuming you use only 1 harddrive). (Some 1st generation windows products, such as the 1st windows2000 also re-write the MBR on bootup and shutdown, so if you successfully installed linux and end up with windows "only" after running windows, you will need to look for a patch to turn-off the windows MBR feature.) The linux drives are named as hda, hdb, hdc, hdd..... unless you are running sata or another type of non-ide drive. My preference for suggested partitioning, supposing you have only 1 harddrive (you can see this using linux "fdisk"): hda1 C:\ Windows (lots of space since almost all windows programs get installed/dumped in C:) hda2 (rest of harddrive - known as extended partition to windows) extended partitions start at 5 and I don't recommend going beyond 9 since some old programs used to define partitions by single partition...example hda"1",hda"9"....bad->hda"10" hda5 E:\ or /mnt/win_e Win32 format (*note below) hda6 /home, ext2, (generous amount of space 1G or more) hda7 /opt ext2, (your experimental dumping ground) hda8 / ext2, (need maybe 2..4G, go for 4G) hda9 swap (generally 2xRAM... 512KB..1GB is enough) *note, Windows will automatically configure itself to recognize the win32 E: partition and with linux, it should probably be /mnt/win_e . I suggest drive E: because some windows CDROM packages are hardwired to expect C: as windows and D: as the CDROM so to aleviate grief later, use E: or whatever comes next as the next drive letter. E: should be formated via linux as a Win32 partition because the latest versions of windows can recognize Win32 partitions but have no ability to format such partition-types. Drive E makes a good swap partition or shared partition between your windows (drive C:) and your linux. So if you want to dump stuff from linux into windows, drop it in partition E and then pick it up from drive E: when you run windows. I won't go into the technical reasons why, but it alleviates a couple of hicups on the windows side if you do it that way. you'll note I mention ext2 instead of ext3. You're running a 700mhz machine and it isn't a critical server, so it isn't necessary to have journalling. boot options assuming "lilo" from hda. with the above choices... then your menu would be: windows hda1 linux hda8 I'm pointing this out in case Knoppix isn't as graphical for installation as Mandrake is ;-) Mandrake just released the latest "candidate" here: http://www.linux.org/news/2005/09/15/0004.html ...but since you are only learning at this point, I'll suggest to avoid it for now because the release candidates tend not to get updated patches versus official releases. My fstab is a bit different, so hopefully I didn't err in simplifying the fstab below, but in case you need to fix /etc/fstab here is a general idea of what to expect with the above config, and assuming drive D: is your cdrom. ----------- /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat umask=77,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_e vfat umask=777,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 user,exec,nodev,nosuid,rw,conv=binary,uid=0,gid=0,umask=77 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /opt ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda9 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=utf8,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0 #/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=utf8,sync,noauto,exec,users 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0022,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 --------------- If Knoppix sets all that up for you automatically, then great! If Knoppix simply sets up your computer as C: and linux, go with that first since it did do all the work for you versus this configuration which is a bit more customized. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter" > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:11 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] Large download problem > > > There is a command on the disk that is called knoppix-hd-install.sh > > or similar. I will look and report exactly. > > > > The reconfiguration is slow when booting from cd. When bootimg from > > hdd it is 10 times faster. > > > > Knoppix is great because it allows people to run linux without > > installing (or destroying) their present installation (windows or > > whatever), and with zero configuration knowledge. Otherwise Knoppix > > *is* Debian linux, in an expertly polished way. > > > > Running Knoppix from cd can be 10 times slower than the same thing > > run from a hdd installation. > > > > The reconfiguration on every boot is its strength. It allows people > > to pull and replace hardware without ever 'reinstalling' or > > 'installing drivers' or any such thing. The price is the time it > > takes to boot. On the other hand, once it's running, why turn it > > off ? ;-) > > > > Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist