> I suppose that it is a sign of our times that if you had not > added the > "seriously, though" I would have believed it without any hesitation. > :-) OK, thanks. Perhaps some of the out-of-the-country folks will > have a useful suggestion. I don't know veroboard, but google hit 3 (http://www.smspower.org/smsreader/prepare.html) looks like what I call stripboard. It is available from every local supplier here, I would expect DigiKey and the like to sell it. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist