Hi Olin, Emulator parts for the 16F648A? So you are using a ICE2000 or ICE4000 to develop the EasyProg. That is a great tool but beyond reach to most hobbyists. We do have ICE2000 (I bought it in year 2000 along with a Promate II and HiTech PICC to start using the PIC and economy was good before 911) but now mostly we use ICD2 (or Silabs EC2 JTAG/C2 for Silabs C8051F3xx) since it is good enough for small code and an processor module costs much more than an ICD2. What do you mean by "the competition"? Philip Pemberton is not selling any Wisp628. However I agree with him that Wisp628 is much easier to build than EasyProg. I still have the two Wisp628s I built in one day on a breadboard. One is using Wouter's firmware and using Xwisp2. The other is using EasyISP and your host software. As far as I am concerned, there are both strong point and weak points for Wisp628 and EasyProg. Still more ideal solution is something like PICkit 2 (US$35), USB based, firmware upgradable, no power supply needed, enough space to hold different programming algorithms. Of course it does not support any 18F and dsPIC yet but it does have the potential. The following is from one of my post to pickit-devel. "The PICKit 2 hardware is well prepared to program any chips, including Non-PICs if we want. The Vdd can be adjusted so it can program 3.3V parts like 18J and dsPIC33. There are also the push button and the 2 64KB EEPROM so that even stand-alone programming is possible. The PICkit 2 (US$35) will become poor man's Promate III (US$895). ;)- " Still I think a USB based EasyProg2550 or Wisp2550 will also be good choice. It is always good to have more choices. Regards, Xiaofan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to Pickit-devel. Pickit-devel google group and wiki: http://groups.google.com/group/pickit-devel http://mlug.missouri.edu/~markrages/pickit-devel/index.php/Main_Page ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 9/13/05, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Chen Xiao Fan wrote: > > It is nice to hear that dsPICs have the same behaviors. I am > > looking forward to your release of EasyProg dsPIC support firmware. > > Last night I finished the initial pass thru the code to port it to the > EasyProg and found that the firmware overflowed the 16F648A. This means > dsPICs will be supported as optional firmware that is missing the 18F > support. After I tossed out the 18F code it fit, but of course didn't work > quite right. I discovered I was missing some emulator parts for the 16F648A > which are now on order. That means I'll switch over to adding 16F88 > support. By the time I'm done with that the emulator parts should be here > and I can continue with dsPIC support. > > > Hopefully Philip Pemberton can create the corresponding EasyISP. ;)- > > It's rewarding to know my efforts are appreciated by the competition. > > > ***************************************************************** > Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts > (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist