Hello group, I don't know if the group is already aware of this, but I found a great = programmer made by some spanish guys (I think there are also some = argentinians). Anyways, it allows you to program almost every pic made. = Here is the software: http://perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/gtp-usb.htm or just click on "Descargar WinPic800" (Download WinPic800). It can use ALOT of different programmers, but I think the best one is = the GTP-USB Lite. GTP stands for "Grabador Todo Pic" (Every Pic = Programmer). Here is the link for the hardware: http://perso.wanadoo.es/j1m/proyectos/gtpusblite/index.htm or http://perso.wanadoo.es/j1m/proyectos/gtpusblite/gtp_usb_lite.zip The programmer uses a 18F2550. You can find the .hex in the directory = ..\Winpic800\Gtp-usb\ When you connect the programmer for the first time windows recognises it = as a new hardware. The driver is in the directory = ..\WinPic800\Gtp-usb\Driver GTP-USB\ You also need to tell WinPic800 you are using the GTP-USB Lite = programmer. Just copy the GTP-USB-Lite.hwp file (It's in the = gtp_usb_lite.zip) to the hardware directory of WinPic800. I know it sounds like alot of things, but it's very simple. I'm still building it, but reading some forums it seems this programmer = works with all the pics supported by the software and it programms = really REALLY fast! If anyone needs help because of the language I'm here to help. Juan Cubillo BTW I'm not using any tags because this seems quite important :-)=20 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist