HI. Just so there isn't any missunderstandings... Chen Xiao Fan wrote : > My guess is that Vpp are not really controlled in > most JDM units... Since you mentioned the Wisp628 in the paragraph before, Note that the Wisp628 doesn't do that either "as-is". It needs a few extra components (as outlined on Wouters Wisp628 page), and then it simple shorts Vdd to GND a short period, which in itself puts some constraints on the power supply (no PSU with "soft-start-", not to many uF's on-baord). A 7805 based PSU with a few 10's of uF has usualy worked for me. I've been re-selling Wisp628's in Sweden for a couple of months, and I've had *three* customers locking themselfs out from 12Fxxx since then. All of them using the blink-a-led test program (using intosc and int-MCLR) from Wouters page...) And since these are all PIC-beginners, well, it's not the best start they could get... :-) Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist