Wine is for sure a great product and it is free and better yet open source. The main objective to use wine for now is to use the MPLAB C18 and C30 under Linux sometimes without rebooting to Windows. The original motivation to try Wine was that I could not build SDCC and gpsim at that time so I started with Wine. Gputils are quite stable already and I used it before under Windows. Linux C30 RPM or DEB binary packages can be downloaded from http://noel.feld.cvut.cz/dspic/ http://forum.microchip.com/tm.asp?m=94243 (uChip Forum post) But I think the libraries are missing. I will check out this later since my dsPIC experiment has not really started. For the other things, gputils/gpsim/sdcc have both native Linux versions as well as Windows and are recommended over Wine. Within the past four months (I started my Linux PIC exploration only in May this year), tremendous progress has been made in this front. Just check out the GNUPIC list and you will know. Remember to check out the CVS version from time to time. Some more status for my wine experiments: MPLAB IDE project management is not working under Wine (broken support of name pipe under Wine??). But there is the great Make as a good alternative. There are free tools (MCC18 wrapper) to integrate C18 with Eclipse IDE (IMHO not really necessary) under Wine. All hardware tools MPLAB supports (ICD2, PICKit 1, Promate II/III) are not working under Wine due to broken serial/usb support under Wine. Actually there are quite some other PIC development software which will work under Wine. I will write a follow-up to the mini-howto but it will take lower priority than my PICkit 2/Wisp628/PICDEM FS USB/ experiments. You are welcome to report your progress with Wine here as well. You can check out the PIClist.com archive of my previous posts. Threads: RE: [PIC] PIC development under Linux with Wine RE: [EE] MCU and electronics development on Linux Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Dennis J. Murray [mailto:denbarb@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:44 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] Mini Howto: Microchip tools under Linux with Wine Thanks to all that replied!! I was REALLY under the impression that WINE was a commercial product and that's why I had not tried it!! Gonna have to download it and start getting familiar with it!! Thanks again! Dennis -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist