As usual, Google knows best, as Russell would say. Even if they didn't realize it. http://www.marteltesttools.com/products.php?cat=114&action=detail&id=73 http://tinyurl.com/e2f7x >From a banner ad next to this thread in my Gmail account. Looks to be about the "right" size; if I'm REALLY hard on myself, I might be able to bury most of the works under it, using a 10F or 12F PIC to autorange and select between AC and DC. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist