Tried to access Alta-Vista's BabelFish translator without success. www.babelfish.alta-vista.com May be a temporary death? May come back. Tried Google's equivalent. http://www.google.com/translate_t Suspiciously similar interface BUT doesn't do traditional Chinese :-( Otherwise seems good, and has better ability to copy from output window. I run two copies and translate to and fro until the result seems approximately correct. Google allows Ctrl-A highlighting of output text for back pasting while BabelFish doesn't. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist