It may be worth James and co looking at this. We MAY have found something useful re message truncation. Whether it can make things better for others i don't know. > On Friday 02 September 2005 12:13 am, Russell McMahon scribbled: >> Are you sure? >> AI assume Olin meant that "are sp", which appears above ofr me, as >> it >> did for me in the original, seemed to be a truncated sentence >> ending. >> Do you see anything after "are sp" ? Neil said: > Yep -- I'm sure. on my system it said "... are specified by package > type." > None of the lines or paragraphs were truncated. That's extremely interesting. My system, or system path appears to have the same fault as Olin's. That's comforting :-) Even when eg Neil saw the message untruncated AND repeated it untruncated it apparently truncated again at exactly the same place. I make the original message ABOUT 259 characters at the truncation point (I'm not going to go back and count it again) so it was quite probably 256 characters give or maybe 255. The fascinating thing is that Neil and others copied the same paragraph, reportedly unedited, which resulted in various ">"s being added. And yet my system has it truncated at the same place. This suggests that there may HAVE been a non printing character there, added after character 256 odd, which caused truncation. A quick look shows it's not there now though. Neil - can you look at the source of the original message or any that had the whole sentence in them and see if there appears to be any extra characters there. Looking at HTML level MAY work but it may need a hex editor. Neil: Did you type in "... are specified by package type." above, or copy and paste it. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist