On Aug 29, 2005, at 7:06 PM, Chen Xiao Fan wrote:

> Sorry but I happened to meet two UCB EE students I considered
> as not up to the fame of UCB.  ... My point is that even good
> universities can produce not-so-good students and not-so-good
> universities can produce top students as well.

But that is not at all what you said:

> There are lousy students in universities like UC Berkley as well
> (since it is a public university and the entrance requirement
> is not so high)
>
UCB (and other universities) produce "not-so-good" engineers IN
SPITE of having high entrance requirements, not because they have
low entrance requirements.  Competition to get into UCB is particularly
fierce because it is comparatively inexpensive compared to private 
schools.)

BillW

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