No need to worry. UIUC is quite a good university. Then again
one needs to set up higher standard than just to get a "C".

There are lousy students in universities like UC Berkley as well
(since it is a public university and the entrance requirement
is not so high) but they have certainly many best students in 
the world. Another thing is that ASIAN American students (like you)
work quite hard and normally set their standards higher.

Private university like RPI has very good students as well
since there are not much place to go in Troy and the
course load is really heavy. Even I do not like my PhD advisor
there and quit, I still rate the undergraduate education 
there very high. 

(**** personal complains *****)
Sadly I met a Chinese advisor who has not got his tenure, said
to be the worst types of advisors to work with (combination of
type 1 and type 3). 

Type 1: advisors from mainland China/Taiwan/Japan/India/... 
Type 2: female
Type 3: Those who have not got their tenure

The best advisors to work with are those from USA or other western
countries and are well established (professors) and yet still 
love supervising.

As long as you are devoted to engineering, your future is very
bright, at least brighter than I, a poor engineer. :)
(**** end of personal complains *****)

US has the best hi-tech industries and the best talents from all over 
the world. Even there are strong competition from countries like
China and India, the talents pool will still make US the strongest
country in this century. One example, Tsinghua University is the
top engineering university in China. Now about 1/3 to 1/2 of the 
top undergraduate student and postgraduate students go to US after
graduation. So they have one of the best undergraduates and master
students in the world but the PhD students are 2nd class. This
may be true for Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), the top
engineering universities in India (the percentage can be lower).

Of course US may need to loosen their rigid immigration policy
(H1 and green card application) and their prejudice towards 
Chinese students in Visa application. Indian students get 5 years
of stay in US and Chinese students get 6 months for their
visa (and they need to reapply the visa once they go back home
and want to re-enter USA). I see a trend that top Chinese 
students are less inclined to go to USA now.

Sorry this may be OT already. 

Regards,
Xiaofan

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Chen [mailto:terry.eug@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:44 AM
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
Subject: Re: [EE] Engineering students across the world


Wow, I am surprised USA engineering student is ranked so low...
I guess that means trouble in the future for the ppl like me.


UIUC student
Terry
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