In China I think most of them are stilling teaching 8051s now. During my university days (1989 to 1993) I was taught firstly Z80, then MCS51 and then 8098. At that time Intel 8098 was very popular along with 8051. For the graduate course, I find they are using ARM (uclinux, ucos-II and WinCE) and TI DSPs as well as FPGAs more and more in the embedded courses now. In top universities like Tsinghua University, they are often using the original textbooks from USA by licensing from the publishing houses and they often get sponsorships from MNCs like Intel, TI and Microsoft. In Singapore, I think that they have 68HC11 and MCS51 courses but PIC is catching up due to the efforts of Microchip Singapore. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Ravi [mailto:chiptech@vsnl.com] Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:32 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] PICmicro tools for hobbyists {was: [PIC] dsPIC for hobbyists) > MCU forums are hot in China and Microchip is sponsoring the PIC > forum in 21ICBBS (http://www.21ic.com). Not suprisingly, the Philips > LPC distributors sponsor the LPC ARM sections and another one > is sponsoring the 51 section. So I guess there is some difference. > > I guess the situation is similar in India. There is no sponsoring here by anyone. The universities in other states of India whoa re currently teaching '51 are switching to teaching PICmicro due to the wide acceptance and requirement of PICmicro in the indistries. Cheers Ravi Pailoor -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist