> Why do you need a staring gauge?? The strain gauge was mentioned as one possible way of measuring the force applied to the clutch mechanism. That measurement would be used in a feedback mechanism so the driver can perceive the force being used (or at least a proportion of it) like a force feedback joystick. > If your using a limit switch you don't need a staring gauge. Right, the limit switches and toggle switch was mentioned as an overly simplified case. > Now you mention a motor, how will you attach it ,and to what?? > will you just use the motor to operate the clutch cylinder??? > Or are you thinking of eliminating the clutch master and slave cylinders??? I hadn't actually decided about the mechanical parts yet. The first idea that I had was a beefy motor connected to a winch drum with a cable to the clutch linkage (think 10-speed bicycle shifter cable, only bigger). Rough guesstimates I'm thinking ~2 inches travel / ~100 pounds of force / <0.25 second cycle time - so it needs to be on the large side. (if memory serves 1 Hp = 550 ft*lb / sec, so 2/12 * 100 /0.25 = 66.6 ft*lb /sec or ~1/8 Hp - doable) BTW, many vehicles have mechanically linked clutches - not hydraulic. Master/slave cylinders aren't relevant in this case. > As far as a trigger you could tie a push button to the stick shift > with some sort of feed back to the operator that the clutch is fully > disengaged . > at this point the operator shifts the auto,and press the button again so the > clutch will engage. I was thinking more along the lines of a sliding collar around the shift lever, with about an inch of travel, spring loaded returns down. Connect a sensor to it to provide a variable position feedback and have the actuator "track" the position of the hand control. All the way down - clutch fully engaged, all the way up - clutch disengaged. -Denny -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist