On Aug 27, 2005, at 5:55 AM, Byron A Jeff wrote: > Wouter has pointed out that cost effective programmers have > their place because they are cost effective. Things like the JDM programmer are beyond "cost effective" and into the realm of "free tools" that we were just saying were so important. Tools are tools; I'm not sure why a hobbyist who isn't willing to pay $100 for a compiler would be willing to spend $100 for a device programmer... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist