On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 05:50:21PM +0200, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > > Why? There are already software and programmers and bootloaders > > for developing the dsPIC on Linux. Obviously as a 100% Linux > > user, the ICD2 is completely out of my scope. So if you have > > a minute, explain what does it bring to the table. > > debugger! As a gdb user I can appreciate a debugger to a point. I find that simulators help with gross errors. But as a "love what you learn" question, what does the debugger bring to the table that's outside of the scope of "normal" debugging activities using I/O devices such as serial interfaces and LCDs? > > > > To provide C30 buidling insturction (without the > > > close source optimizer) and packages will be another > > > good thing to do. > > > > That's been done by someone else. You've posted the links > > to it. MChip has been very very gracious in sticking to the > > GPL and releasing the source for C30. > > No grace in that at all: if they use something that is GPLed they must > follow the rules! It would be a violation of the copyright law if they > did not. True. But with so many entities being unscrupulous about following even the letter of the law, it's still a good thing to see. > > Rather, they followed the letter (relased the modified source of the > part they used) but violated the spirit (they made a product, of which a > modified GCC is a part, and carefully separated the GPL-ed part from a > closed-source part). > Perfectly within their rights. You're talking about the optimizer then right? If they wrote the optimizer from scratch as a value add, and that optimizer is a separate entity from the compiler (which it clearly is), then more power to them. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist