OK, let me talk more about battery. I worked with my charger for quite long. I found: ending method dV and -dV, T rising do exist, but they exhibit really in the messy way and seldom identical, for even same battery, same SW and same HW. I now believe how the bettery have been used, discharged, the betteries are used in RC, digital CAM, flash light, on/off once or experienced many on/off, all lay a leg on battery ending behaviors when you recharge them. Unrealiable and useless are my conclusion to dV or T rising ending method. Now I am trying a totally new charging concept and hope to cope with the complexity. Main method is pulsing. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist