Hi, Actually trickle charge is bad for NiMh more of because NiMh's typically do not need as a high a maintenance current as their NiCd counterparts ( I recall its somewhere around the order of 5% or something, not sure really). As such, during trickle charging once end point is reached they tend to get overcharged. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Chia "Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration." - Thomas Edison E-mail: danielcjh@yahoo.com.sg MSN: danstryder01@yahoo.com.sg ICQ: 37878331 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of > Philip Pemberton > Sent: 27 August 2005 21:33 > To: piclist@mit.edu > Subject: RE: [EE]: NiCd/NiMH Burp/reflex charging (was [EE] Claimed new method > to fast charge NiCds) > > In message > <570CCF7BBB512341BA0EBA19E95084FB61D8@server.MicroBrix.local> > "David Van Horn" wrote: > > > Typical fast charge is around 1C, with a range of 0.5C to 2C. Outside > > this range, the end of charge signals will become less distinct. > > 1C it is then. Guess I need to find a 2A PSU. > Am I right in thinking that trickle charging is actually bad for NiMHs? > > > Check the cell specs carefully. > > If they are cheap Chinese cells, I'd advise against anything faster than > > 0.5C. And I'd suggest a face shield and gloves. > > Japanese actually. Kodak 1600mAh, "Made in Japan for Eastman Kodak > Company". > Very nice cells actually - certainly better than the Chinese-made Uniross > junk I used to use in the digicam. > > > 1: Final backup, a timer that simply counts to say 120% normal charge > > time. > > 2: A pipo over temperature cutout made into the battery pack. > > 3: Absolute temperature of > 40C > > 4: Rate of rise of temperature > 1C/min > > 5: Absolute voltage > 1.6V/Cell > > 7: Negative delta V of a few mV/Sec > > Is it worth monitoring the current going into the cell, or is that not a > reliable way to detect end of charge? > > > Good resources, though somewhat conflicting: > > > > McGraw-Hill's handbook of batteries > > Sanyo and Panasonic data sheets. > > Data sheets from your cell manufacturer. > > Data sheets on charge ICs from Galaxy power. > > Data sheets from the Cadex web site. > > Ooo! More light reading for bedtime :) > > Thanks. > -- > Phil. | Acorn RiscPC600 SA220 64MB+6GB 100baseT > philpem@philpem.me.uk | Athlon64 3200+ A8VDeluxe R2 512MB+100GB > http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | Panasonic CF-25 Mk.2 Toughbook > ... DisneyLand: A people trap operated by a mouse. > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist Send instant messages to your online friends http://asia.messenger.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist