> You have left out WINPIC800. This supports many dsPIC along > with 10F, 12F, > 16F and 18F. IT has many good features and very fast in > programming compared > to ICPROG. Supports many hardware interfaces along with JDM :-). I think this is the one an Italian customer of me was so enthousiastic about. I'll add it to start-with-pics. But could you convince the author to put some english on his webpage? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist