Oh yes I remember I came across this in the Microchip Forum USB section. Too bad I do not understand Spanish. The GTP_USB and GTP_USB Lite seem to be quite nice little USB programmers. Maybe it is the existing version of Wouter's coming "Wisp2550". The user interface of WinPIC800 is also quite okay. It actually supports most 10F, 12F, 16F, 18F and dsPICs. Looks promising and I may want to try to build one later. Now I want to concentrate on my PICKit 2. Regards, Xiaofan ------------------------------------ http://forum.microchip.com/tm.asp?m=108574 Thanks a lot for yours comments :) this programmer its an adaptation about GTP-USB by Sisco, you can find it in WinPic800 page, its a project in collaboration with TodoPIC forum users. you'll find necessary GTP_USB.hex for usb programmer into WinPIC800... into the folder WinPic800\GTP-USB When connect it first time, you'll install drivers, it's simple, but here you have a guide http://perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/driver_GTP-USB.htm WinPIC800 its necessary to this programmer, its possibly the best pic programmer software free ;) i think you don't have any problem to use it. http://perso.wanadoo.es/siscobf/winpic800.htm sorry for my English J1M -----Original Message----- From: eCHIP [mailto:chiptech@vsnl.com] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 12:47 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] dsPIC for hobbyists > When will be Wisp648 (or better Wisp2550) be out? > When will the PICkit 2 clone be out? > Warp? It is out of the business even though the > author still supports it. Right? > Pony-Prog? The author seems no longer support it. > Ic-prog? Is it a programmer or just a software? You have left out WINPIC800. This supports many dsPIC along with 10F, 12F, 16F and 18F. IT has many good features and very fast in programming compared to ICPROG. Supports many hardware interfaces along with JDM :-). Cheers Ravi -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist