> >> Ic-prog? Is it a programmer or just a software? > > > > it is just softwaree, but it suppports a wide range of (too) simple > > hardware (the typical serial-port pin-wiggling proggers). Not my > > recommended choice, but it is what a lot of starters use. > > There are a bunch in that class. If you look at ic-prog, winpic, winpicprog > and the like, probably 75-95% of all hobbyists at least started with that > sort of approach. Today perhaps a USB programmer makes more sense, but if > you want to penetrate the hobbyist market, then you need to be looking at > the non-proprietary programmers, no matter how bad an idea you think that > is. > > But if you (i.e. Microchip) take a disdainful attitude toward the "typical > serial-port pin-wiggling proggers" then you are writing off virtually all > the hobbyists, save the tiny few with understanding wives. I build and sell "typical serial-port pin-wiggling proggers" programmers and have made PICmicro popular with students and hobbyists along with ICD2 equivalent. Due to the cost difference between the origanal and clones, the clones sell more :-). Cheers Ravi -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist