> Hmm.  I wonder whether whether Wouter has "moved up in the world"
> and is expected (as an established vendor of PICs and PIC development
> tools) to simply ask for development resources if he needs or wants
> them?

I have moved up in the sense that if I feel I need a development board I
just buy it. At this moment the phyiscal sapce it will take up will
probably be more of a problem than the price. If I don't use it I can
always put it in my shop, and if I do use it and I like it I can do the
same. But that moving up also means that I have zero hobby time to spend
on 'nice' projects like a Jal++.

> Now, Wouter isn't cisco, but then cisco isn't an "ambassador for
> microchip" the way Wouter is either, and I would think that a word
> in the right ear would get him dsPIC development tools aimed at
> better support for them in WISP and/or JAL.

No, no! I don't need that no more, I can buy my tools if I need them! 

What I was suggesting was that 

1- years ago, when I was a hobbyist with plenty of time (no kids, no
webshop, wife sometimes staying in the town were she worked) a lousy PS+
(lousy in uChip funds terms) made quite a difference. There are bound to
be compareable cases around at this moment. The grunt work is to
identify them.

2- even when I say I don't need free stuff any more just sending some
*might* still make a difference, but the return-on-investment is
probably much lower than in case 1. there might be different kinds of
bait that work much better in case 2, but that's for a shrink to find
out. or maybe it's in Raymond's book.

If I were uChip I would be much more worried about a collapse of the
piclist than about the future of Jal and/or Wisp. Not that I don't have
faith in our benevolent dictators, but at one time the burden might
become too high (either financially or emotionally, or maybe just the
hours).

Wouter van Ooijen

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