Good ideas for the dsPIC competition. I will add PICkit 2 to the list as well. :) Anyway I think Microchip is planning to support PIC18/PIC18J/dsPIC for PICkit 2 judging from the PC application (now grayed out) but I do not know the time frame. Hopefully not year 2010. :) Some questions to Wouter: When will be Wisp648 (or better Wisp2550) be out? When will the PICkit 2 clone be out? Warp? It is out of the business even though the author still supports it. Right? Pony-Prog? The author seems no longer support it. Ic-prog? Is it a programmer or just a software? Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: Wouter van Ooijen [mailto:wouter@voti.nl] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:50 PM For more examples on the net: how about a contest aimed at hobbyist (for instance: estimated price of total project must be < $25). ... About Wisp628 (more like Wisp648) support for dsPICs: ... If uChip had bombarded me with samples of all new chips I would probably have felt obliged to do something with them. I would suggest that they select a few 'promising' programmer designs and simple send a few samples of each new PIC chip to the developers. Suggestions that I can think of right now: myself (of course), Olin, Kitsrus, Warp, ic-prog, pony-prog (yes, those ones too!). Wouter van Ooijen -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist