Sigh. I'm an idiot. For several years now, in the background, I've been working on the ultimate sprinkler controller. The basic building block is a networked relay controller, using a sort of primitive rs232 ring network to allow infinite numbers of modules to be connected to the controller. The master controller can either be a dedicated board with display and such, or a PC-type box. You would think, having worked in computer networking for 20+ years, and having watched with some amusement how star wiring topologies like 10baseT, or even AUI-based ethernet "hubs" have replaced the more intellectually elegant bus and ring wiring topologies due to easier management, that I would have built a hub-based network. But NO, I made each relay controller have an "in" and "out" connector, at rather substantial expense in PCB complexity, and not much actual elegance in terms of interconnect layout. And then I need a hub-like board to do power distribution, fusing, and connector conversion anyway. Grr... (on the plus side, it looks like the modules will be compatible with either hub or direct-ring topologies, so I can continue building, coding, and testing with the existing prototype...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist