Lindy Mayfield wrote, "You don't even get debug anymore." DEBUG.EXE is still distributed with Windows to this day. It may not be of a lot of use today, but it is still there read for those that know what to do with it. -Mario -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:12 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: RE: [EE] I say it is spinach . . . Actually, what you said was you did "lots and lots and lots" and that all compilers, assemblers, OS's and other such tools should all be free. For a software company that produces compilers and tools, this would be pretty much exclusive; or that was how I interpreted it. Actually I didn't mean to be sarcastic or argumentative. I believe the open source software movement has its place and is very valuable. Also, Microchip making their assembler and development tools "free" was a strategic marketing decision that put them ahead of the competition in many respects. So to be fair, given this reasoning, the fact that you get compilers and other tools with a standard Unix environment and not one with Microsoft makes IMHO Microsoft OS's pretty much crippled to begin with. (You don't even get debug anymore. (-: When that went away, I stopped subscribing to PC Magazine.) Actually this could go round and round. So I reinterpret what you were saying as, it would be nice if more tools and such were free. -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of John Nall Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:52 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] I say it is spinach . . . Lindy Mayfield wrote: >I thought he was joking... > >I've heard of lawyers doing pro bono, but not exclusively. > > Oh gosh, did I say exclusively???? Must have been a typo. Are you sure? Hard to believe that I would have said that, but I suppose a mistake is possible. No, not exclusively, of course not. (Are you sure I said that???) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist