> Excellent summary of this flawed but brilliant aircraft. > Very fast. Very capable. Very dangerous to fly. > Simultaneously held world speed, altitude and rate of climb records. > One of a very few aircraft with a downward firing ejector seat. I think the fact that the F-104 killed Iven Kincheloe and almost killed Chuck Yeager pretty much sums up its danger level... Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist