> In any case, the dongle you built end > sent me, > works just fine as-is without > any additional elco... This will depend on a lot of factors - the exact value of the 5V - the exact value of various components (elco's can often be +50%!) - the exact Vdd level where the 16F628 in question stops working (might be different for 16F628, 16F628A, 16F648A). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist