> The Kiwi sense of humour is better than I ever would have thought! Haha, I'm English (basically) and nuts and don't you forget it ;-) PS I meant shamisen. "shamiken", according to Google, is an author "According to Eric von Shamiken the ancient Incas left cryptic writings..." I thought at it first it was a simple mis-spelling of Daniken, but now think "sham" might indicate a personal belief of that page's writer -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist