William Chops Westfield wrote: > But that's not what we're talking about. We want to know whether > the dsPic is powerful, cheap, easy to use, and common enough to > use as your general purpose "does everything" hobbyist chip. I think it's a good choice, particularly the 30F3013 and 30F4012. These are both available in 28 pin DIP package. The '3013 has 12 bit A/Ds whereas the '4012 has 10 bit A/Ds but a larger program memory. > IMO, it's currently too expensive, Not if you think about it rationally realizing you are just buying a small number. Other than the knee jerk reaction, this shouldn't be an issue (although I realize a lot of hobbyists out there think with their knees). > draws too much current, Most projects aren't going to have a problem with the PIC drawing 150mA at 5V. Of course this is only at its maximum clock rate. As far as I can see, a dsPIC draws about comparable current to an 18F at the same clock rate. > and most of the existing code examples are written for a $$$ compiler > not accessible to hobbyists... So don't use the compiler. The assembler, librarian, linker, debugger, simulator, and IDE are free and part of MPLAB just like with other PICs. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist