>> I 'forced' the students to buy the thing > > How ? Just like they are forced to buy their books: by putting it on the 'required for this class' list. The school agreed, provided that the PCB price is compareable to a course book (~ E 50, and of course that the class would require no other things). After the class another teacher tried to buy a PCB from students (I was out of stock at that moment) but he could not find one willing to sell :) Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist