On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 17:17:17 +0800, you wrote: >Agreed. They have changed a lot and they even come out >cheap tools similar to ICD2. Still the current consumption >issue can not be helped. In terms of "non-availability", >I think nobody can beat Atmel. :) Therefore I still >suggest them to use PIC which has the best long term >availability in a reasonable price. Still Microchip >does not have the best volume pricing now. :( Low price is no use if you can't get the parts.... The cost of stopped production due to parts shortages probably outweighs any cost difference in the parts. Think of it like an insurance policy! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist