I know I asked about this quite some time ago, so the archives should have some info. I don't know the specifics of those Atmel chips, but the MSP430 line comes to mind as being in a similar category. Can't say much about pricing at 10k pieces, but it's always been my impression that the 12F and 16F PICs are some of the lowest-cost MCUs around. BTW, I believe that there is a tag for [AVR] as well. Cheers, -Neil. On Friday 12 August 2005 12:49 am, Chen Xiao Fan scribbled: > Right now my colleagues in Germany are looking for small > MCUs to replace Atmel AVR. We are again facing delivery > problems with Atmel AVRs even though the price is good > and we have lots of code base for AVR. Somehow Atmel > is always fulfilling the requirements of big white > goods company first and ignore smaller customers. This > situation is quite similar to last time when the > price of Flash was hot back 4 or 5 years ago. > > Of course I suggest them to use PIC and Silabs MCU just > as we use here in Singapore but they seem to not quite > like PIC (because they like AVR?) and Silabs MCU is on the > higher side of the price range. > > Requirement: to replace AtTiny 26, AtTiny 2313, AtMega48/88 > 1) maxim 5x5mm QFN, 14 to 32 pin package > 2) similar in features to the AVR parts. Industrial temperature. > Essential requirement is with built-in comparators and/or ADCs, > internal oscillators and low cost (<=US$2 in 10k quantity) > > Any suggestions? > > Regards, > Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist