On Aug 9, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Howard Winter wrote: > did they report the small Russian submarine that was nearly lost ? It was on the radio, at least in the initial stages. I don't know if it remained 'newsworthy' after it turned out to be the British who saved the day :-) TV news isn't to be trusted, period, IMO. I mean, how much news can you show in 30 minutes, anyway? People who really want to know what's going on should (and presumably do) read the papers. The local papers (San Jose Mercury) web site shows 7 stories on the russian sub, for instance (starting 5-aug, ending 8-aug.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist