>> Bearing in mind what you said, my experience is that carbide / >> carbide-cobalt are good value. Especially with the PCB industry throwing them away after perhaps half of their nominal life, so that "used" carbide drills are widely available from surplus dealers at a fraction of their original price. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist