> Now [EE] was put in the subject for a reason... ;) You must > not be aware of the paragon of efficiency that is the LM3909 550uA operating current isn't *that* efficient these days. A sleeping 12F will beat that by a factor of 500,000 !!! A sleeping 10F by a factor of 5,000. Both have wake-up WDT, you can work out the average LED-driving consumption BTW, a discrete clone http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/LM3909.html -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist