> An assembler is NOT a compiler. The difference between a compiler > of any sort, let alone C, and an assembler is HUGE. The complexity > and development cost for a compiler, as well as the maintanence cost, > is HUGE. You're right about that. I did not state my thoughts correctly. > The cost of these products is not negligible. I would guess that > Microsoft probably spends as much or more money and effort on > their VisualStudio products as they do on Office, and it has a much > smaller target audience. MUCH smaller. But I'm not asking for a full featured product like Visual Studio. I'm only talking about a free plain vanilla compiler, none of that other stuff like object browser, and versioning control, etc. For all I care, it doesn't even have to be a gui tool or integreate into one. For the good looking, juicy, full featured stuff, to me is where the third party vendors come in. > As for Microchip, as has often been pointed out, they are in the > chip business, not the software business. While it would be nice > for them to provide a free C compiler, they would either have to > devote pretty hefty resources to it, in which case it would likely > consume more than it produces, or produce a poor quality > product, in which case the only people who would use it are > hobbyists and low volume companies that can't afford a fancy, > higher quality compiler. Either way, they don't stand to gain > by doing it. You have some good points above. But again, I'm talking about something very basic. They already have people sitting at a desk somewhere creating tools such as the Application Maestro. Now it's functionality is nowhere near what a compiler does, however, they did have X number of employees putting that together, and it's free. Mario -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist