> Another possibility is to check PICkit 1 source code. > I have programmed lots of 12F629 with internal MCLR with > no problems. The firmware and the host software source > codes are both available from Microchip website. That is no answer to the problem: the PICkit1 is a programmer-target combo, so it can switch the target's Vdd at will. The problem is when the target is self-powered. You will run into the same problem when you try to use a PICkit1 to program a self-powered target. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist