Hi Olin. One can drive Xtal in with precise clock generator and load the Xtal out with several different values of precise resistors with low inductance and low capacitance ( say recommeneded for 1GHz designs ) Phase shift ( delay ) and output impedance can be measured for let's say 20 samples for difference frequecnies, oscillation modes, etc. WBR Dmitry. Olin Lathrop wrote: > > Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > The output acts like a *current* source. > > That's the same as saying it has inifinite impedence. As I said, I agree > that the capacitors are in series for calculating the load capacitance in > this case. > > However I don't agree that the driver has infinite impedence. It has CMOS > high/low output drive transistors, and will look roughly resistive. And, I > think there is a good chance that this resistance is about the same or lower > than the impedence of the capacitor on the pin at that frequency. > > Do you at least agree that if the driver has finite impedence, then just > adding the two capacitors is not valid? > > ***************************************************************** > Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts > (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist