I find from the FAQ section of the Microsoft Visual Studio Express Edition website that each will indeed be sold at US$49 once formally released. Still I did not see any mentioning of the beta testing period so hopefully there are no time limit. It is meant for the beginners, students, hobbyists. Perfect for me. For professionals who need MFC/ATL/ActiveX then the full version is necessary. As a test drive, I downloaded some VB.NET and C# USB codes from Lakeview Research and they are actually working. Another thing is that Microsoft is really correct to say that they are small (<50MB) since the 516MB has the .NET 2 Beta, MSDN Express (big) and SQL Express. The VB/VC/C#/J# portion are less than 50MB. Regards, Xiaofan -----Original Message----- From: WH Tan [mailto:tanwh@notes.src.global.sharp.co.jp] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:47 AM It's a strip down version of the full version and it's available for public download. Microsoft recent public realase not including an IDE. Hoever this time around, it includes an IDE! I think the major difference is it has no MFC library support. Apart some optimizations are not available in express edition. Where did you hear about that? It can't produce a standalone application? Well I think you have to register (or Microcost sometime refers it as activate) it. If not it will only work for 30 days. I think there is no time limit after you register it. I also believe there will be an official express edition for public download once it is really! >From Microsoft web site: - Small download makes it easy to get started I'm doubt over the last comment anyway. 516MB is considered small download? Never mind it's free anyway ;) Best regards, WH Tan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist