Spehro Pefhany wrote: > Sorry, I don't agree, at least prima facie, that some resistance would > affect the validity of the equations-- I think the effect would be to > lower the Q somewhat, not to change the resonant frequency directly. I wasn't talking about changing the resonant frequency, only how to compute the load presented to the crystal in a given situation. Think about the limiting case where the oscillator output had 0 impedence. In other words, it's a pure voltage source. Hanging a capacitor on its output would not change the waveform on either side of the crystal at all. By definition, the voltage source would produce the same voltage regardless of what current it takes to do that. In that case, the crystal output capacitor would be the sole crystal load. This proves that driver impedence has an effect on how the load is calculated, at least when the driver impedence is low. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist