Hi, I think that any thread that has ANY kind of political or religious content should be taken off the list !!! No one has ever seen a message by me responding to any of the other threads but if we read them sometimes it gets so unresistable to answer that it is always asking for trouble to start ANY political or religious thread !! I will answer this one.... What is reasonable in engineering terms can be argued but never gets passionate. Politics is NEVER argued in a reasonable way for a long time... It can start mild but will turn to fire sooner ot later... > I am a Taxpaying US Citizen and proud of it. USA: Love it or Leave it. If > you don't like being occupied, quit bullying us. If you don't like the > current conditions, we can make them tougher. It is not necesary to do any "bullying" with the USA to be occupied !!! It just needs to have enough financial interest and your Country will invade or make a military state takeover happen !! It has happened in all South America.... Do not be so naive to believe that USA is a honest country... No Country will ever be honest !!! All states want power and control over all the economy that might be accessible, either by economical or military force. It is the nature of the process and no one will ever change it unless there are stronger multilateral organizations the can hold down the allmight power of any "superpower"... > It is within our power to simply take Iraq with or without the occupants > and consider it a possession. How many other political entities would > resist the trophy? > Fire when ready, but be advised I am weary of hearing the ungrateful... > Or better yet, shut this noise down while we still have a chance to get > along. I think that you are being naive again.... All "empires" have fallen at the right time.. The roman empire is a good example... If the US does not review it's external politics it will fall just as any other "superpower" will fall when it tries to reach further than it can... And the US is doing just that.. Remember that anything has a price and the 9/11 should have teached that... But is has not and the anger and fury to dominate is getting bigger and bigger... Anything has a price..... It may take one decade or 100 years but it will happen.. And in the meantime it the external politics does not change... The external debt of the US will grow bigger and bigger, the Americans will be hated more and more, other countries will do anything to make it fall, either at the military ot at the economics... Please do not take any of this as personal.. It is not... But in the way it was put I just felt I have the right to answer.. If we keep this kind of subjects inside the list it will always deteriorate the relationships among members and bring all kinds of quarrel and fights !!! Let's keep this out of the list... No one can resist to answer once in a while and all answer will always be explosive because politics and religious discussions are not rational !!!! Sorry James but I think that at the point it got it has to be discussed here.. If anyone can say what anyone thinks I could not resist to answer to the absurd "felling of superiority" that is almost "brain washed" in the American people !!! All the system is done to make that felling almost irressistable.. If we get this kind of discussion here in the list it will always generate trouble.... And hate... And explosive discussions.... Best regards, Alexandre Guimaraes -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist