On a recent wilderness camping trip, I discovered how far my rope handling skills have degenerated since my ancient days as a Boy Scout. My vow to reclaim my misplaced talents led me to the following page... http://www.4thtyldesley.co.uk/skills/knots.htm It includes methods for the most important of basic knots, as well as lashing for construction of structures using rope and poles alone. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist