sorry guys and gals I just had to throw this in as well...... I failed to mention I was born in the USA and live in the USA. While technically a US citizen ( which has it's conveniences ), I do not vote, I love to be on juries and I attend town meetings, council meetings and the like to ask for programs to be dropped and expenditures reduced. Of course, I am ignored. Every day in my own ways, I do what I can to interfere with government expansion. Now to the point..... ( Question ) I would like one of the folks who says " This is my country and I am proud of it" to explain exactly ( and I mean exactly ) what that means. Do you own the USA ? I think not ? Does the USA follow your directives ? Not even one I would think, unless by coincidence. In fact, what is the USA ? Is it the military ? the government ? The White House spokesman ? The people who inhabit the USA ? The ground we walk on ? ???? At least when some one says " The Patriots are MY football team" , I know what they are talking about. I know what the Patriots football team is and I know that they do not own it, and they do not direct it and they do not influence it. Yes, it is true that thousands of fans combine to influence the team and it is also true that one fan does not. So if someone would answer my original question ........ Augustus Gustavius Salvatore Calabrese 720.222.1309 AGSC www.omegadogs.com Denver, CO -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist