> You still *seem* to be missing his point and the point. "A Republic" > is a subset of democracy. People in it, largely, have equal rights to > participate in the processes of governance. The protections, in the As I understand it, a republic is a form of government where the people elect the polititions that govern them. One of the reasons that this is a popular form of democracy is that a republic doesn't suffer from the communication problems of a pure democracy. In other words, you need to get a smaller group of people together to vote in laws. In the US our elections are staged for the Senate such that only one third of the senate may be changed every two years. This gives us a safety margin in the case of sudden and unusual circumstances. For example, the legislators are now questioning certain laws such as the Patriot Act that they passed almost without question after 9/11. There are many other forms of republic other than the US model. > on circumstance. A barrier to action whose only real (non-spiritual) > strength lies in the will of the people to have it upheld and to > uphold it. Where those in power wish to take more power to themselves, Yes. And this means that the people have to actually participate in democratic process. They should at least vote. One thing our last presidential election did was to bring out the voters. I may have disagreed with the outcome of the election, but I haven't seen this number of voters in my lifetime. > Democracy is the subset of anarchy where a majority of people are in > broad agreement and agree to formalise their consensus > A Republic is a Democracy established and maintained by bureaucrats. If you accept that definition of democracy, then *any* form of government is a subset of anarchy. > generally apposite. A libertarian is a person who wants nothing from > government except a strong police force to protect her from her > slaves. I've always wondered why people get that impression of libertarionism. All the libertarians I know would rather just be left alone by the government. And as I understand it, the basic tenets of libertarianism give liberty to *everybody*. -- D. Jay Newman ! Polititions and civilations come and jay@sprucegrove.com ! go but the engineers and machinists http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! make progress -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist