>> Problem is, good old gcc is a huge pain to get set up on >> Windoze compared to VB or VC++. > > A have used djgpp al long time, and found it reasonably easy to set up > and use. > > For 1y student classes we often used devcpp. I just say to the student: > download, install, use. Most of them have not seen and IDE before but > can use it immediately. > > Wouter van Ooijen Last time I checked, DJGPP (http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/) created DOS executables only. For "true" Windows applications, you can use MinGW (http://www.mingw.org/). DevC++ (http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html) works equally well with both compilers. Wouter is right - if you just follow the steps, installation is painless. Best regards, Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist