On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 23:30, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > > Have I managed to switch it out of LVP mode > > (shouldn't be possible) > > have you enabled internal MCLR? No. I should now report that I got it to read & program (once), yet subsequent reads and attempts to get the chip identity now fail. .... Further testing reveals this: using either pikdev or picprg seem to mess up the chip so that it can no longer be programmed. The chip needs a complete reset (power off, wait 30s, power on) before it will behave itself, only prog84 will then talk to it. As these programs previously worked, I'm guessing that these two are allowing my program to briefly start* before going into program mode, which causes the hardware to act "strange". Is this even possible? I'll test by reflashing the chip tomorrow but it's late downunder now. * the MCLR is only bought high by the programmer, not internally. Michael Curtis -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist