> I also tried a clone ICD2 before but it was not so good. Which clone and in what aspects was it not so good? > I like PICkit 1 the most for my 12F629 programming. Did ypu try Microchip baseline programmer? It looks like an ICSP version of the PICkit 1 (so without the target circuit). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist