> When I left, I had a Wisp628 programmer, which I > thought was just fine and dandy. But I feel sure that technology has > passed me by and that I probably need a new programmer in order to use > the new Microchip products. My work on the next Wisp628 firmware does not progress very fast (too much other things to do) but I will get there in the end, so maybe you should at least not throw the Wisp628 in the bin. Or you might try to run Olin's software on it, someone has ported his software to run on my hardware :) If you have the money to spend I would suggest an ICD2 (or a cheaper clone). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist