Motorola (Freescale) always answers back my queries even when I was asking questions that clearly were from someone just starting. At some stage I asked a question about the use of higher speed oscillators and they gave me what I can call a misleading answers, I just slated the engineer on the feedback sheet. To my amazing the Engineer wrote me an email personally apologizing for not giving me the right info. To me that's service. Freescale stuff is far superior to the Microchip Stuff, you just need to look at how many ways of addressing there are in their Micros and price/features Microchip losses out big time. Microchip as a very good marketing machine that's all. Regards Luis Luis Moreira luis.moreira@jet.uk tel. 01235464615 JET PSU Department UKAEA Culham Division J20/1/55, Culham Science Centre Abingdon Oxfordshire OX14 3DB -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Mario Mendes Jr. Sent: 24 June 2005 00:44 To: 'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.' Subject: RE: [PIC]: Microchip overtaking Motorola/Freescale I understand you point, and I have to agree. For the hardware you get in a PIC for $5.00, it IS expensive when you compare with another MCU like you just did, but taking the hobbyst in consideration it is cheap, specially when you can go the the Microchip site and get a few MCUs for free, therefore very cheap. Also cheap on this point, you call, speak with a human being and you paid only about $5 for the MCU, but if you got a free sample, they're still talking to you on the phone for nothing. Another dumb comparison: I preffer paying an extra $0.10/gallon of gas at a full service station to saving it at a self service station, and it is not because I don't want to get out of the car, but because I get to interact with a real human being and maybe even get to have a nice short conversation with a stranger that is [probably] not going to whack me over the head for my wallet. I pay a little more for pics, but the Microchip guys talk to me when I call, and that's valuable service. -Mario -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:15 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: RE: [PIC]: Microchip overtaking Motorola/Freescale On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Mario Mendes Jr. wrote: > Hmmmm... Well, I particularly enjoy working with PICs, even though I > have been doing so for only a few months now, but I can see why it is > so popular. > > Firts, it is cheap compared to others like AVR and ARM, plus, there is Cheap ? You get a LPC2xxx from Philips, that's an ARM TDMI, that is almost powerful enough to run QNX for $10 a piece with at least 2x10 bit AD 256k flash 32k ram on chip, legal I2C, SPI, too many timers to count, and a proper RTC etc, runs at 60Mhz on internal pll, one instruction per clock on average. Plus a decent open source toolchain and a fantastic built in bootloader and debugger (it's burned into the silicon!), and JTAG compatibility, and serial flashing (a la Buffalo). And NO PAGING OR BANKING. The ARM is not in the same league with PICs. Never was, not even 15 years ago when it was developed. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist